From Angel to Exit Episode 45
Can't Find a Clear Buyer for Your Niche Business? Reframe the Story to Create an Exit Path
Johnny LeHaneExited founder and investor
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About This Episode.
Start with the key takeaways, the ideas worth bringing back to your leadership team. Then read the full story of the conversation, or use the chapters above to jump straight to the moment that matters most to you.
- Don’t rely on “we’ll figure it out” leadership in multi-founder teams.
- Growth strategies must match capitalization reality.
- Franchising isn’t just a model, it’s an entanglement strategy.
- A niche business can reach $10M and still be hard to exit.
- Terms are runway design.
- Minority owners have limited leverage.
- Earnouts and deferred payouts are emotional strings.
- Build a new identity before you exit.
What happens when a business becomes successful, but not “exit-shaped”?
In this episode of From Angel to Exit, Bruce Eckfeldt interviews Johnny LeHane, an exited founder and investor who helped grow WAKA (World Adult Kickball Association) from a bar-napkin idea into a national social sports company operating across 70+ cities and 35 states, reaching roughly $10M in revenue. Johnny didn’t start with a traditional entrepreneur story. With an engineering background and early career at America Online during the rise of consumer internet, he expected a stable corporate path. Instead, a single line, “why don’t people play kickball?”, turned into a side project that became a full-time business. He describes a smart “off-ramp” into entrepreneurship: build the business while employed, then transition with savings and risk controls (including a leave of absence request) rather than leaping from zero.
As WAKA scaled, new problems replaced early momentum. A three-founder structure created decision friction, forcing the team to hire (and eventually fire) a CEO. They explored franchising as a growth and “entanglement” strategy, trying to lock in local operators, but discovered that as technology became commoditized, it got easier for competitors to replicate operations. Later, they pursued acquisitions and a potential roll-up strategy, but a key acquisition dragged out, was undercapitalized, and immediately created cash strain, an issue worsened by market headwinds.
Johnny’s exit ultimately became a negotiated buyout from partners rather than a massive sale. He’s blunt about the real negotiation: not just price, but terms, payout horizon, front-loading, promissory risk, and what happens when “worst case” hits (like COVID’s impact on outdoor social sports). He also highlights the emotional cost: partner relationships change, identity shifts, and earnout-style payouts keep founders psychologically tethered long after they “leave.”
The closing lesson is bigger than the business: founders should build optionality early, financially, strategically, and personally, so the next chapter is something they’re moving toward, not something they’re forced into.
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Johnny LeHane
Exited founder and investor
Johnny LeHane is an exited founder and investor. He helped grow WAKA, the World Adult Kickball Association, from a side project into a national social sports company operating in more than 70 cities.
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